Priest George Maximov. "A question that the Protestants never ask."
When we – Orthodox Christians – talk 
about the faith with a Protestant, we can hear a variety of questions 
from him. Those about icons, about the baptism of babies, about the 
veneration of saints and so on. But there is one question that they will
 never touch themselves. But it is this question that is the most 
important, where a fundamental difference between us lies. This question
 is the teaching about the Church.
What is the Church of Christ? Any 
Protestant will immediately say that the denomination, to which he 
currently belongs, is the Church of Christ. Then the question is: when 
did your denomination appear? The range of answers will vary from the 
last year to the beginning of the Reformation. Well, where had the 
church of Christ been before that time?
Many Protestants look at the church 
history like this: there were apostolic times, and then there was the 
apostolic Church. And then, allegedly already from the II century, there
 were distortions in the teachings of the Church. Many bluntly say that 
the Church lost its apostolic creed because it brought all sorts of 
false practices and ideas into its purity. It may even be said that "the
 true Church was destroyed by paganism"[1]. So, starting from the XVI 
century, from the time of the Reformation, it was them, the Protestants,
 that allegedly returned the pure apostolic teaching. Well, from the XVI
 century – if we talk about the "old" Protestants: Lutherans, 
Calvinists. And “new” Protestants, such as the Baptists, Adventists, and
 Pentecostals, for example, appeared later. Since Protestants are known 
for being fond of speaking that it is them and their denomination that 
faithfully follow the Bible in their faith, we will consider their views
 on the Church precisely through the prism of the Holy Scripture. Let's 
see if this Protestant idea about the disappeared Church is consistent 
with the Bible.
And, of course, if we believe the 
Protestants that the Church created by Christ had been defiled by pagan 
practices, it lost the truth, and fell into fallacies, then in this case
 we declare that the gates of hell prevailed against the Church. And 
through this, we declare the Lord Jesus Christ to be a liar, showing 
that He promised, but did not keep His promise.
There is another promise that the Lord 
made. He said: Lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world 
(Matt. 28:20). The Lord does not only promise that the Church itself 
will be stable, He promises that He Himself will be with His Church all 
the days until the end of the world. Here, as we can see, it is not 
mentioned that the Lord is going to make a pause from the second to the 
sixteenth century. Far less, till the XIX century.
And Paul the Apostle, for his part, 
writes that glory will be given to God in the church by Christ Jesus 
throughout all ages, world without end (Eph. 3:21). That is, the Church 
created by Christ and spread through the apostles will exist throughout 
all subsequent generations and glorify God. Protestant beliefs that this
 Church allegedly disappeared for one and a half thousand years, 
directly contradict these biblical words.
It is also worth recalling that Christ 
promised the apostles to give the Holy Spirit and said: When he, the 
Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth (John 16:13),
 teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, 
whatsoever I have said unto you (John 14:26) We know when the Holy 
Spirit came to the apostles: it was on the day of Pentecost, which is 
considered the birthday of the Church. That is, the Lord gives the Holy 
Spirit, and the Holy Spirit preserves the Church. He keeps her from 
distortion, from deviating from the truth. Therefore, Paul the apostle 
calls the church the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Tim. 3:15). 
Because the Spirit of truth guides it, and Christ Himself, who is the 
Truth (John 14: 6), dwells invisibly in it. An individual or even a 
group of people, of course, can fall into fallacies, and it has always 
been so. The apostles also warned about this (see: 2 Pet. 2: 1; Gal. 1: 
6–9). But it is impossible for the whole Church to be deluded, because 
it means that it would have ceased to exist.
This raises another interesting question
 to the Protestants. You say that only the Bible is holy for you and it 
is based on the Bible that you came to the conclusion that since the 2nd
 century, the true Church disappeared, having become infected by 
paganism. But who and when approved the canon of the New Testament? Who 
decided that of the many monuments of ancient Christianity, these 
particular books are the Holy Scripture, the part of the Bible? Answer: 
This happened in the year 364 at the Laodicean Council of that same 
Church, which you consider fallen into paganism, and of which the 
Orthodox Church is a historical continuation. No one can name the 
earlier date of the approval of the canon of the New Testament, as we 
know it now. But if the True Church no longer existed at that time, then
 the Bible itself was also deprived of its authority, as the Bible was 
recorded, compiled and preserved by this historical Church, from which 
the Protestants later received it through the Catholics.
The mentioned Protestant ideas not only contradict the Bible, as already shown, moreover, they are not historically confirmed.
I myself, for example, when I was coming
 to faith, personally checked it. I read the New Testament first. After 
that, I began to read other Christian documents that have survived from 
the end of the 1st century. For example, the message of St. Clement of 
Rome, the disciple of the apostles. Then I passed to the documents that 
were written in the 2nd century. And I read them, including those 
written directly by the disciples of the apostles, such as St. Polycarp 
of Smyrna, St. Ignatius the God-bearer. That is, - I will emphasize - 
these texts were written by those who personally knew the apostles and 
accepted the Christian doctrine from them.
After that, I moved to the 3rd century 
and read all the Christian texts of that time. Then I moved to the 4th 
century, and so on. And I was convinced that throughout all these 
centuries the Church remained the same in its teaching. The wording of 
the dogma could be changed, but the dogma itself is now in the Orthodox 
Church the same as it was in the times of the apostles and their 
disciples. Of course, I do not ask anyone to take my word. If I chance 
to talk with Protestants, I suggest them to check themselves. Take the 
texts and check. Everything is in the public domain. As a rule, almost 
all Protestants are very poorly versed in the history of the Church and 
practically do not know it at all. What happened after the things 
described in the Acts of the Apostles and before their denomination 
arose is terra incognita for them. And it is a huge layer in the history
 of the church, Christianity, and the mankind in general.
And if Protestants find the courage to 
consider this issue without prejudice, then, of course, they will see 
the truth. It is easy to see that the Church described in documents of 1
 – 2 centuries, is totally different from what we now see at Protestant 
meetings and what we observe while getting acquainted with modern 
Protestantism in general.
That Church of the apostolic times 
objectively resembles the Orthodox Church. And this is not just my 
impression. I will give as an example one incident that occurred in the 
1960s in the American cities of Ben Lomond and Santa Barbara. A group of
 young Protestants came to the conclusion that all Protestant Churches 
known to them cannot be a real Church ... And then these young people 
decided to trace the history of the Church from the apostolic times to 
the present day in order to find out where the Church described in the 
book of Acts is now. And they took the same path that I later followed. 
That is, they consistently studied all historical documents. At the same
 time there were many divisions in history. And in the Ancient Church 
there were various heresies that separated from Orthodoxy. And at each 
such fork, these Protestants examined and compared unbiasedly: which of 
these teachings — the teaching of the Orthodox Church or the teaching of
 those who had separated — most closely matches the teaching that 
existed before them? Who exactly kept the apostolic faith, and who 
introduced the innovation?
And as a result of the research, which 
was long and painstaking and in which the Orthodox side did not 
participate in any way, the community became convinced that it was the 
Orthodox Church that created the Bible. It was this Church who preserved
 the Bible for the world. And the first steps of this church are 
described in the book of the Acts. And in 1974, the entire Protestant 
community — more than 2,000 people — applied to the Orthodox Church and 
was accepted. There are descriptions of their way to Orthodoxy written 
by them, everyone can get acquainted if he wants. For example, there is 
the wonderful book by Peter Gillquist “Coming Home”. Let me quote a 
passage from it:
“In our journey through history we 
had carefully followed over one thousand years of unbroken continuity in
 the Church. It goes without saying that we affirmed the Church as found
 in the pages of the New Testament. We found that same Church in the 
second and the third century, faced with bitter persecution, celebrating
 her liturgy in homes, caves, and even graveyards; and guided by devoted
 bishops who often finished the race as martyrs. We found her in the 
fourth century, defending the faith at Nicea, and in the fifth century 
at Chalcedon. We followed her through to the eighth century, studied her
 Great Councils, fell in love with her stalwarts, saints, and fathers as
 they preached the Gospel, warred against the heretics, and established 
holy imagery in their worship of God. It amazed us how moral and 
doctrinal corruption in the Church would be boldly faced, and how 
potential destruction was repeatedly avoided. God was with her in the 
ninth and tenth centuries …
But then came A.D. 1054, and we were
 faced with a choice. A split had come. I can still somehow recall the 
physical feeling that I had as I said to my cohorts, "The East is right 
in resisting the papacy, and they're right in rejecting the filioque 
clause." And then I drew a deep, new breath. "I guess that makes us ... 
Orthodox” ”[2].
I know of other such examples, albeit 
smaller in size, when people, through the study of the history of 
Christianity, were convinced of the truth of Orthodoxy.
Of course, not all people are ready to 
embark on such a serious historical study, not everyone has this 
opportunity. But in this case, they will be satisfied with what the Lord
 Jesus Christ and His apostles say about the Church in order to 
understand that the true Church could not disappear. And, accordingly, 
all Protestant churches, which directly hold their gap with the 
preceding Christian tradition and count their history from the 
foundation of their denomination by mortal people, certainly cannot be 
the Church that continuously exists from the time of the Apostolic 
Church and until the Second Coming of Christ.
Some Protestants understand this 
problem. And to defend themselves, they say otherwise: yes, of course, 
the Church has been in all ages. But this real Church was invisible. It 
consisted of individual righteous people who could belong formally to 
different Christian denominations, could be among Orthodox, Nestorians, 
Monophysites, Catholics, etc., but they believed correctly (that is, 
like modern Protestants), and they all formed this invisible church of 
Christ. And after a certain year, it became visible via our 
denomination. Many Protestants may say that the Church remains invisible
 even now, and all “correct”, from the point of view of this 
denomination, people from other denominations supposedly belong to it. 
And it is about this invisible Church Christ said that the gates of hell
 would not prevail against it and that He would be with it.
Let me suppose that the “theory of the 
invisible Church” was also created in order to explain the crisis of 
inconsistency of what is observed in the Protestant world with its 
incessant fragmentation into new denominations, with what was described 
in the book of Acts of the Apostles, where The Church appears as a 
single organism, a single reality, a single structure that can afford to
 hold the Apostolic Council in Jerusalem and accepts the decisions of 
this Council (see: Acts 15: 6–31). In the modern Protestant world, 
holding something like this for all denominations is simply unthinkable.
 And the Protestants themselves admit it.
Does the concept of the “invisible 
Church” agree with the Bible? Let us recall the words of the Lord Jesus 
Christ, in which He indicates how to convict a person if he has sinned. 
He says that you need to bring witnesses. And if he shall neglect to 
hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the 
church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican (Matt. 
18:17). Here is the advice that the Lord gives to all Christians, to all
 who want to be disciples of Him. And this advice implies that the 
Church will always be detectable. The Church is not something amorphous,
 speculative, indefinable, and invisible. No. It represents something 
concrete, visible and clearly distinguishable from other communities. 
This community has its own procedures, allowing the opportunity to ask 
for help in solving baffled questions. And it has always been so in the 
Church. As in ancient times, the first Apostolic Council was held, and 
subsequently all controversial issues in the Church were decided by 
Councils. And the ecclesiastical court also existed, it had the power of
 the Church to make judgments, “to bind and loose” (see: Matt. 18:18). A
 man can turn for resolution of litigation only to such a visible 
Church. And how do you turn to the “invisible Church”? It is like 
sending a victim of robbers to go to an “invisible court”, of which no 
one knows where it is and of whom it consists.
And in other places of the Holy 
Scriptures, we can see the same reality when it is said, for example, 
that the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved (Acts 
2:47). This is a very concrete, visible Church. People knew that if they
 want to become Christians, then they must come to this community and be
 baptized, they have to be with all others. And, it is described there 
very well that all Christians continued stedfastly in the apostles' 
doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers (Acts 
2:42). And, by the way, precisely because the Apostolic Church was 
visible, it could be persecuted — at that time there was a great 
persecution against the church (Acts 8: 1), and Saul, who had not yet 
been converted, persecuted the church of God, and wasted it (Gal 1:13). 
And how can an invisible Church be persecuted?
It is worth recalling the words of 
Scripture about the communion of the Body and Blood of Christ: as often 
as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death 
till He come (1 Cor. 11:26). That is, the Eucharist in the Church will 
be celebrated from the time of the apostles and up to the Second Coming 
of Christ till He come. And the breaking of the bread, as the Eucharist 
is called in the Scripture, is what is performed in the visible way. 
Both the cup, and the wine and the bread offered for transubstantiation,
 and the communion of the Body and Blood of Christ take place in a 
visible and tactile manner. All of this is just impossible in the 
"invisible Church”. I should say that in the Protestant world, there is 
another theory that is trying to solve the problem we are talking about.
 It is namely the “theory of branches”. In contrast to the “theory of 
the invisible church,” which tries to come up with some kind of mystical
 unity of individuals despite the divisions between churches to which 
they may belong, the “branch theory” declares the divisions and 
differences between Christian denominations to be unimportant and claims
 that all people who call themselves Christians – Protestants of various
 interpretations, Catholics, Orthodox, and Monophysites, they all 
together constitute the one Church of Christ as the branches of a single
 tree.
But it is impossible to agree with this 
concept either, since the Lord Himself said that He would have one fold 
(John 10:16). Even with a strong desire, it is impossible to call all 
the communities listed above a single fold. Because in reality - and 
this is not a secret to anyone - they have no unity between themselves. 
They have neither unity of faith, nor unity in sacraments, nor unity in 
ecclesiastical administrative, canonical questions, nor unity in moral 
views. Even among the Protestants themselves, directly opposite things 
are often asserted.
For example, there are Protestants who 
claim that homosexuality is a sin, but there are Protestants who say: 
there is nothing like that, there is no sin here. And they even have 
pastors - open homosexuals and celebrate so-called homosexual marriages.
 This is just one of the examples, and there are other major 
differences, including the ones of dogmatic faith nature. Where is the 
unity here? But adherents of the discussed idea stubbornly say: “Yes, 
all this is not essential, of course, there are differences, but are 
they important? The most important thing is that we have something that 
unites us. ”
But, as St. John Chrysostom said, we can
 find something that unites us with any person, even an unbeliever, — 
only with the devil we have nothing in common. But it does not mean that
 we and any person belong to the same Church. And we’ll never come 
across the idea that the differences in beliefs are not essential, as 
long as people call themselves Christians, in the apostles’ doctrine. 
Moreover, we find there the exactly opposite thoughts.
For example, Paul the apostle says: 
After my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing
 the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse 
things, to draw away disciples after them (Acts 20: 28–30). Elsewhere, 
the apostle says: I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause 
divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; 
and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, 
but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the 
hearts of the simple (Rom. 16: 17–18). And he also writes: As we said 
before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you 
than that ye have received, let him be accursed (Gal. 1: 9).
As we see, the doctrinal differences are
 so serious that the apostle directly prescribes to anathematize such 
people, to separate them from the church body. He describes that the 
division itself is the result of the sin. Also, the apostle says that 
heresies shall not inherit the kingdom of God (see: Gal. 5: 21–22).
Therefore, it is impossible to say that 
it doesn’t matter what we believe in, and, they say, if we call 
ourselves Christians, then we are all one Church. It is not true. We are
 united then neither in faith, nor in moral teaching, nor in the 
Eucharist. Scripture says that Christians should have one Lord, one 
faith, one baptism (Eph. 4: 5). And in the existing confessions and 
denominations, faith is not just one, faith is different, that is why 
divisions occurred: here they teach this way, and here it is different, 
and in another “church” - in some other way.
With the fact that all the so-called 
“branches” do not have one faith, even the Protestants will not argue, 
because it is a self-evident fact. But we need to talk more about the 
unity of the Eucharist. This important point, unfortunately, is not 
understood by our Protestant interlocutors at all, because they do not 
believe that the rite, which they conduct, calling it the communion, 
really gives them the true Body and Blood of Christ. They say these are 
just symbols. And they are right that they have not the Body and Blood 
of Christ, they really have bread and wine only. In this, they are 
right, but they are wrong when they think that it is not possible to 
unite with the true Body and Blood of Christ in communion.
Our Savior spoke of it as of not only 
possible, but the necessary deed: Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of 
man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh,
 and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life ... [he] dwelleth in me, and I
 in him (John 6: 53–54, 56). The Lord said that without the Communion of
 His Body and Blood it is impossible to have eternal life in yourself, 
that is, you cannot be saved. And later He showed how to fulfill these 
His words. He showed it at the Last Supper, when, as the Gospel 
narrates, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to
 the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the 
cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 
for For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many 
for the remission of sins (Matt. 26: 26–28). Christ did not say: “Take, 
eat: this is the symbol of my body” and “the symbol of my blood.” He 
said clearly: this is my body and this is my blood. Although the 
apostles continued to see the same bread and wine, but at the same time 
by the power of God they became what the Almighty Lord called them, 
about whom the Scripture says: He spake, and it was done; He commanded, 
and it stood fast (Ps. 33: 9). And the Lord did this miracle not only 
once for the apostles. He, as we know, commanded: This do in remembrance
 of Me (Lk. 22:19). And in fulfillment of these words, Christians began 
to celebrate the Eucharist from the very first days of the Church. In 
the same chapter, where it is described that the apostles on the day of 
Pentecost began to preach, and three thousand people were converted, it 
is further written that they continued stedfastly in …breaking of bread 
(Acts 2:42), that is, performing the Eucharist.
The Protestants say ‘Yes and we all do 
it. Of course, we break bread and drink wine, but for us it is just a 
memory of Christ’s sufferings, nothing more’. But it this case, why to 
bother with this ritual at all? After all, you can remember Christ 
without bread and wine. Let's see if the Eucharist for the apostles 
themselves was just a remembrance of Christ? Paul the apostle says: The 
cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of 
Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of
 Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16). As we see, the apostle does not say: Is it not 
the symbol of the blood of Christ? or: is it not a remembrance of 
Christ? For the apostle, it is the communion of the true Body and Blood 
of Christ.
And in this case, communion acquires a 
special deep meaning which the apostle speaks of: For we being many are 
one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread (1 
Cor. 10:17). And so we, being many, are one body in Christ (Rom.12: 5). 
And the Church itself is also the body of Christ (see: Eph. 1: 22–23). 
For the apostle, all this was reality — both the fact that the Church is
 the body of Christ, and that communion is the Body of Christ. And we 
become a part of this body through communion, through the Eucharist. So 
we become part of one Church of Christ. And in Orthodoxy for two 
thousand years, this uninterrupted connection through the Eucharist is 
preserved. For example, when I was at celebrations in Hong Kong one and a
 half year ago, during a divine service, I took communion from the same 
cup with Father Michael Lee. He is a Chinese Orthodox priest who is now 
90 years old. Father Michael himself, in the days of his youth, took 
communion from the same cup with St. John of Shanghai. And St. John of 
Shanghai, in turn, in his childhood, received communion from one cup 
with St. John of Kronstadt. And so from generation to generation, back 
into the centuries, this living connection comes to the time of the 
apostles, who received communion from the hands of the Lord Jesus Christ
 Himself. Through the Eucharist, the Church is a single divine-human 
organism that has lived without interruption for two thousand years, 
starting from the very apostolic times.
Therefore, it is not surprising that our
 saints say: The borders of the Church are the borders of the Eucharist.
 Whoever does not take communion in the Orthodox Church, who does not 
communicate with the Orthodox Church and does not partake in it, is 
outside the Church of Christ [3]. And, returning to the “theory of 
branches”, we see its inconsistency from this side as well - since there
 can be no completely separate communities, calling themselves churches,
 all equally having the true communion of the Body and Blood of Christ. 
As the apostle writes: Is Christ divided? (1 Cor. 1:13). Christ is one 
and His Body is one. Therefore, the Eucharist is one, having been 
performed continuously for two thousand years in the only authentic 
Church of Christ. Our task is to find this Church, which was founded by 
the Lord Jesus Christ, and which from the apostolic time, has 
continuously kept both the apostolic faith and the sacraments, including
 the Eucharist. This church is true. The rest of the communities that 
call themselves churches, if they are separated from it, are not true. 
We cannot say that all churches were created by Christ, because the Lord
 said: I will build My Church (Matt. 16:18), and not: “I will build My 
churches.” And the apostle wrote: The Church is the pillar of truth (1 
Tim. 3:15), and not: "The churches are the pillars of truth." The Church
 is one, preserving its unity over the centuries in fulfillment of the 
words of the Savior: they all may be one (John 17:21), and there shall 
be one fold, and one shepherd (John 10:16).
The uniqueness, unity and 
indestructibility of the true Church of Christ are often spoken of by 
Holy Scripture and, of course, by Sacred Tradition. And it is not 
something that we simply declare. It is a historical fact. Any 
Protestant can refer to the testimony of history to see where the truth 
is.
And it is precisely this feeling of the 
Church that our Protestant interlocutors unfortunately lack. They do not
 understand the reality of the Church, what it is all about. They 
present it as simply a human meeting: “I came to a certain city, found 
several like-minded people, we began to get together, read the Bible, 
pray - this is the church too.” But this is not the Church, but a hobby 
club that you yourself created. Where is the church created by Christ? 
Come and see that this is the Church that is now known as the Orthodox, 
that is, the one that truly glorifies God.
August 4, 2014.
[1] Баптисты, их задачи и цели 
(Baptists, their tasks and goals). Rostov-on-Don, 1909. p. 8. The same 
ideas are expressed by modern Protestant authors.
[2] http://waytohome.narod.ru/texts/witness/tohome/.
[3] I will quote two statements. The 
Monk Justin (Popovich) writes about this like “all the truth”: “The Holy
 Eucharist is the fullness of the Church; it is the living, all-perfect 
God-Man, the Lord Christ, who in His God-human fullness wholly dwells in
 the Church in all ages ... He is always the Same as He is in the holy 
Eucharist; always the Same for each participant and in each participant 
... And through all this, He is our sanctification, our transfiguration,
 our salvation ... and all this is found in the Divine-human body of the
 Church through the communion of the holy Eucharistic Body and Blood of 
the Savior. As the Body of Christ - the Eucharist is the Church, so the 
Church is the Eucharist, for by it and in it we are in the catholic 
unity with all the saints "(Justin (Popovich), Rev. Assembly of Works. 
T. 3. M., 2006. S. 519). Saint Hilarion (Troitskiy) says the same thing:
 “The meaning of the sacrament of communion is in his churchliness. 
There is no communion outside the unity of the church. It is essential 
that in patristic writings, church unity is inseparably linked to the 
sacrament of the Body and Blood of Christ ”(Hilarion (Troitskiy), 
martyr. There is no Christianity without the Church).

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